Rejane Torrecampo
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Naakow Grant-Hayford wrote a new post 12 years, 7 months ago
We all feel desperate watching the horrible killing, feeling the suffering of the bereaved, the whole people. But, what to do? Could it be that the UN, and governments in general, have a tendency to make the same mistake, again and again, of putting the cart before the horse?
The formula they use is generally:
[1] Get rid of No. 1[Mugabe-Saddam-Ghaddafi-Assad etc] as key responsible, using sanctions; then
[2] Cease-fire, appealing to the parties, or intervening, imposing;
[3] Negotiation among all legitimate parties; and from that
[4] A political solution as a compromise between the positions.
It looks so logical. There is a key responsible, President Assad, ordering the killing; get rid of him by all means. Then the cease-fire, the fire ceasing; then negotiation, and then the solution emerges. Logical, yes; but maybe not very wise.No. [1], as identified by his own, by outsiders, and by the media in a Western No. 1-oriented culture, no doubt matters. But being that important, he may also hold some keys to the solutions. He may later step down or be ousted, but first listen to his words.
No. [2], Cease-fire: Why would they do it with no acceptable solution in sight? Would that not be capitulation, even to outsiders? Useful for a break in the fighting, rest for the fighters, time to redeploy and to rearm; but neither necessary nor sufficient for a solution.
No. [3], Negotiation, with a major party eliminated, and a de facto monitored capitulation? Whose agenda will be favored by that?
No. [4], A political solution? Indeed yes, but under these three conditions the outcome is given in advance.
Let us look at the opposite order, [4]-[3]-[2]-[1]. We start with a solution, then negotiation about details, if successful, even compelling, an armistice may emerge. And then, maybe, No. 1 steps down, having done his part of the job.
But how can anybody find a solution when the killing is rampant? Well, the motivation is high. Make a cease-fire and the motivation dwindles, as we saw in Sri Lanka. Tourism picked up again, but the search for solutions abated down to zero, and the cease-fire was used by both for the purposes mentioned above.
But how can there be a solution when key actors have their arms full of arms? Who said they should do it? They have deputies; moreover, the country is full of people who have given thoughts to the problems, not only to who is bad and who is good. And who are not only victory-oriented, but solution-oriented.
The search could be for solutions, not for the solution. Let 1,000 dialogues blossom, in each quarter, each village, enriching the gross national idea product, GNIP. UN-supported facilitators, with knowledge of mediation, rather than with guns and binoculars.
To do this, let the parties, outside and inside Syria, talk. Let them state their goals, the Syria they would like to see.
First, an image of the goals of some outside parties:
Israel: wants Syria divided in smaller parts, detached from Iran, status quo for Golan Heights, and a new map for the Middle East;
USA: wants what Israel wants and control over oil, gas, pipelines;
UK: wants what USA wants;
France: co-responsible with the UK for post-Ottoman colonization in the area, wants confirmed friendship France-Syria;
Russia: wants a naval base in the Mediterranean, and an “ally”;
China: wants what Russia wants;
EU: wants both what Israel-USA wants and what France wants;
Iran: wants Shia power;
Iraq: majority Shia, wants what Iran wants;
Lebanon: wants to know what it wants;
Saudi-Arabia: wants Sunni power;
Egypt: wants to emerge as the conflict-manager;
Qatar: wants the same as Saudi Arabia and Egypt;
Gulf States: want what USA-UK wants;
The Arab League: wants no repetition of Libya, tries human rights;
Turkey: wants to assert itself relative to the (Israel-USA) successors to the (France-UK-Italy) successors to the Ottoman Empire, and a buffer zone in Syria.
UN: wants to emerge as the conflict manager.Over this looms a dark cloud: Syria is in the zone between Israel-USA-NATO and Shanghai Cooperation Organization-SCO, both expanding.
Then, an image of the goals of some inside parties:
Alawis (15%): want to remain in power, “for the best of all”;
Shias in general: want the same;
Sunnis: want majority rule, their rule, democracy;
Jews, Christians, minorities: want security, fearing Sunni rule;
Kurds: want high level autonomy, some community with other Kurds.Every single statement here can be challenged and challenged again. But let us for the sake of the mental experiment assume that this image, with 16 outside and five inside parties, is more right than wrong. Is the terrible violence outside “terrorism”, or inside “state terrorism”, against those wanting democracy?
Both. But asking who is more responsible in a powder keg, nitrate, sulfur, carbon, or the blow, or who constructed the powder keg (France) is not helpful.
Rather, is there any solution in sight? Not by violence. Whoever wins will be deeply resented by the rest, in a house and a region so deeply divided against itself. Not by sanctions, regardless of how deep, and broad, with Russia and China participating. It is like punishing a person with microbes and the immune system fighting inside for having fever. The weaker the patient, the more contagious.
What comes to mind is a Swiss solution. One Syria, federal, with local autonomy, even down to the village level, with Sunnis, Shias and Kurds having relations to their own across the borders. International peacekeeping, also for the protection of minorities. And non-aligned, which rules out foreign bases and flows of arms, but does not rule out compulsory arbitration for the Golan Heights (and June 1967 in general), with Israeli UN membership at stake.
Napoleon invaded to control Switzerland in 1798-1806, but gave up. Will the present Napoleons, Netanyahu-Obama, do the same?
The alternatives are two more catastrophes: open war with Saudi-Jordan-Qatar; or R2P (Responsibility to Protect) a la Libya, with 7,700 bombs and missiles. The winner is resented; and with no sustainable solution in sight.
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Naakow Grant-Hayford posted an update 12 years, 7 months ago
Finally a reasoned comment on the Günter Grass issue: German audio
Kommentar: Friedenspreis statt Schelte für Günther GrassZur Haupt-Navigation der ARD.Zum Inhalt. -
Naakow Grant-Hayford and Mike Anstis are now friends 12 years, 7 months ago
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Naakow Grant-Hayford wrote a new post 12 years, 7 months ago
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Erika Degortes and Elias Bloch are now friends 12 years, 8 months ago
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Naakow Grant-Hayford and Anna are now friends 12 years, 8 months ago
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Aura TRIFU posted an update in the group Anything Galtung 12 years, 8 months ago
(Spanish) Prof. Galtung\’s Lecture within the Congress \”Religion and Violence\” held in Madrid in may 2007: http://www.circulobellasartes.com/mt_visor.php?id=476&keyword=Galtung%2C+Johan
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Dear Aura, you have been highly active in TMS and here. Thank you for keeping an eye on this audio release. Some people have been calling our office asking for it. Thank you.
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Dear Naakow, it is a great pleasure and honour for me to participate in TMS and G-I and I am enjoying a very enriching experience here. Thank you all.
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Naakow Grant-Hayford and laura gilmartin are now friends 12 years, 8 months ago
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Federica Riccadonna posted an update in the group Nepal- A Peace and Conflict Perspective 12 years, 8 months ago
My days are going on..and electricity creates some problems to me and my work. But I am become accustomed to such unforeseen. They become part of a lifestyle, that gives you a sort of freedom in a sense.
Meeting people, having so many dialogues every days, eating with good company of Nepali family, talking with so different kind of people..all…[Read more] -
Aura TRIFU posted an update 12 years, 8 months ago
@degortes Hi Erika! Sorry, but I\’ve accidentally left the group ACT3. I\’ve send a request again, I hope it will soon be accepted. Thank you and sorry for creating trouble.
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Aura TRIFU replied to the forum topic DIAGNOSIS PROGNOSIS THERAPY – a methodology for encompassig conflict analysis in the group Anything Galtung 12 years, 8 months ago
Hello everyone! I experience certain dificulty to understand the limit between party and actor. what does it mean councious? is it possible for someone having a threelemma and not being conscious about having it? […]
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Hello Dear Aura, are you still having that difficulty? Because I am. What was you solution to this issue? I would guess that an actor is not yet a conflict party but just acting out according to his or her goals. A party however has been defined through interacting with some other actor whereby the incompatibility has become clear. What do you…[Read more]
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Hello dear Kimm, good to know that someone else is sharing the same concerns for thorough understanding of the concepts. my dialectical dipping started with the given attribute for party=interest holder / actor=goal holder, where interest becomes goal once the holder becomes conscious and organized. As I understand it now, the difference is given…[Read more]
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Aura TRIFU replied to the forum topic BASIC NEED 2/4: WELLBEING in the group Anything Galtung 12 years, 8 months ago
social and economic safety also? having access not only in the present, but in future to food, home and sanitation. stability and guarantees as a condition sine qua non for the mental health and spiritual balance?
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Naakow Grant-Hayford and Elias Bloch are now friends 12 years, 8 months ago
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Naakow Grant-Hayford posted an update 12 years, 8 months ago
Macro-Conflict: Hans Blix on the escalating conflict between the U.S.A, the E.U, Israel and Iran
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Naakow Grant-Hayford posted an update in the group International Relations: Conflict, War & Peace 12 years, 8 months ago
Hans Blix on how to deal with the escalating conflict between the U.S.A, the E.U, Israel and Iran
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Aura TRIFU posted an update in the group Anything Galtung 12 years, 8 months ago
sorry, sanitation
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Aura TRIFU posted an update in the group Anything Galtung 12 years, 8 months ago
Hello everyone! i have a doubt about basic needs \”wellbeing\” concept: does it comprise social and economic safety also? having access not only in the present, but in future to food, home and sanity. stability and guarantees as a condition sine qua non for the mental health and spiritual balance?
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Erika Degortes posted an update 12 years, 8 months ago
Hello Peter welcome to the Galtung-Institut online community! I hope you will find it interesting and useful@peter6922
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Hey Ericka. When I try to edit the Document for peace econ, it keeps saying the Rebecca is editing the document. This is the case now and was the case at 1am my time today (4am Ontario time). Maybe she’s knocking assignment three out… but I suspect that it’s a network issue. Could you or someone check? Thanks.
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No, was not me… I wasn’t online at that time!
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That’s strange then… Can you access the document? Its been saying that I can’t.
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I’ve had no problem accessing the document Raphael.
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Federica Riccadonna and Yadab Bastola are now friends 12 years, 8 months ago
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Federica Riccadonna posted an update in the group Nepal- A Peace and Conflict Perspective 12 years, 8 months ago
Sino-China influence on Nepal. A new playground for cold war?
Hot and ColdThe burgeoning Chinese, Indian and Pakistani influence raises alarm in transitional Nepal which has an open border with both China and India. India encircles it from… - Load More
Thanks to our resident Peace Journalist Elias Bloch for digging this one up.